there is a sense of a balance between government and the govern, and that's the good news. the not-so-good news or the big question mark is whether they can take that general attitude and translate into a political arrangement that has some stability and legitimacy. and what we've seen is that hasn't happened yet, and that's the thing that's playing out. and we don't have a lot of influence over it. we can basically say -- we can incentivize them to do some of the right things, conditioning economic aid from the imf or the united states on pluralism and something that looks like a democratic process. but at the end of the day, egyptians are going to have to work it out, and it's going to be awfully important because people should never forget, this is a quarter to a third of the arab world, and cairo is one of the great centers of the arab and islamic world. what happened here is repercussions that go far beyond the borders of egypt. >> no doubt about it, they are the leader of the arab world. mika, also fascinating just to look at what's going on to see that the army, whic